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gmajor7th in 13th Colony, New Jersey

4 months ago

Thinking of ways to end it, at this point in time, I'm giving up hope. I've been unemployed for 7 months, 30+ interviews and no results. My field is in IT, I have the experience, degree and certs, reliable refs, clean legal/background history. I've given my life to this field, and without work, or profession, I am nothing.

I didn't work in college and in the real world to be relegated to McDonald's night shift manager, or Domino's MVP.
I'm an honest worker, not like the pirates in the Financial field that frakked the economy.

I'm really at my end, I feel alot of the problem is racial with these positions. Even though Obama is in office, I think it has opened the floodgates of racism to flourish in hiring decisions. "Well, they have Obama, this guy should be happy". I get to 2nd, 3rd round of the interview process, and surprise, surprise, they choose a "more qualified prospect aka "no-negroids allowed club"...This is both in academic and corporate environments. If I applied to cleaning floors and toilets, then I get the "welcome aboard", anything else "we'll let you know soon".

I'm so frakked, my life is in shambles, without a career, I'm a eunich, a non-man, a little kid, emasculated, demoralized.

I can't believe I'm actually considering the Army of all things, but the best I could hope for is an IED if I join up. It beats working at Target with a CS degree...but at least I will be a man, and die like one...

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CanYouHandleTheTruth? in Ballwin, Missouri

4 months ago

I hear ya, man, but don't give up. I'm in about the same boat you are but I haven't been able to get more than few interviews and I'm white. So, what would my excuse be? Yea, I'm sure that there may have been instances where your race played a role in their decision, but the fact that you were called in for 2nd and 3rd interviews tells me that you have the job skills, but maybe you need to polish your interviewing skills.
America these days isn't the same as it was even 20 years ago, so using the 'race card' is a weak excuse. Let me update your perception on white people - we HATE it when minorities (expecially African-Americans) play the race card or have an attitude of entitlement. You're not entitled to sh*t, OK? Show people that you can do the work and can get along with EVERYBODY and white people are fine with that because that's what we've come to expect from one another.
Instead of the Army, try expanding your job possibilities - you said you have management experience, so look for a retail management job or an office management position.
Re; interviews, did you do any follow up thank letters or emails after the interviews? Did you ask them how they felt the interview went? Send them an email and ask for feedback - the worst thing that'll happen is that they won't respond.
As a former hiring manager, I can't tell you how many times I was thinking of hiring a person, called them in for an interview, and they blew it through their actions or attitude. Their race had nothing to do with it. I always asked myself when interviewing someone; "Their history shows they can do the job, but will they? Will they get along with my other workers? Do they annoy me?" Any yes's means they didn't get hired. They had the tools, but y=they interviewed poorly.
Kepp up your self-confidence and work on the interview skills. You'll land something soon.

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gmajor7th in 13th Colony, New Jersey

4 months ago

CanYouHandleTheTruth? in Ballwin, Missouri said:
America these days isn't the same as it was even 20 years ago, so using the 'race card' is a weak excuse. Let me update your perception on white people - we HATE it when minorities (expecially African-Americans) play the race card or have an attitude of entitlement. You're not entitled to sh*t, OK? Show people that you can do the work and can get along with EVERYBODY and white people are fine with that because that's what we've come to expect from one another.
Instead of the Army, try expanding your job possibilities - you said you have management experience, so look for a retail management job or an office management position.
Re; interviews, did you do any follow up thank letters or

I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you on the entitlement thing. Not once did I say I was "entitled" to any position, it's the fact that I know I'm losing out to less skilled prospects. One case was a HS grad with no IT experience landing a Network Admin position over me, hmm, I wonder why I lost out?

Also you already assumed I have dminished interviewing skills, no sir, not the case. I interview just fine, I'm confident to the point of arrogance, maybe employers don't like it. I sometimes go into rooms with 7 people interviewing me (like a knights of the roundtable scenario) and I drill every question they ask, and then I ask 3-4 questions back (in this case it was 20 lol). I hammer them back and take notes, and do the regular niceties, call back, TY letters, etc. I'm really relaxed and in the pocket.

If an AA prospect is the most qualified prospect out of a batch of 4 (such as myself most of the time), why the Frak are they choosing Loserman with the right skin tone with no passion for the field over me or similar AAs in the field? Let me guess, "they fit better with the company culture"...

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CanYouHandleTheTruth? in Ballwin, Missouri

4 months ago

I'm not in IT, so I don't know the specifics, but since when does a company allow applicants to know who one another are? You seem to KNOW that the person(s) that got the job(s) was white and less qualified than you - how do you know this?
In your postings, you have this attitude that you are the best at what you do and that YOU are infallible. That might be your downfall. Being confident is one thing, but to me, IMHO, you sound really cocky, and that gets annoying really fast.
Let me ask you something - in today's economy and the way companies have to work harder than ever to even survive, do you actually think that they would choose a less qualified, less personable candidate for job when they had the opportunity to hire 'Superman' (i.e.: you).
That doesn't make sense. They want someone that will fit in, do the job, and MAKE THE COMPANY MONEY. Any company that hires a lesser applicant based on a lighter skin tone is making it more difficult for the companies to survive and/or prosper.
I don't know you, but just from your posts, you come across as an arrogant person who doesn't take responsibility for their failures but will trumpet their small successes.
Experienced hiring managers pick up on that quickly and their job depends on them hiring the BEST person for the job.
Maybe you need to realize that you may be good at what you do, but there is always someone just as good and possibly better. Work on improving presenting yourself and quit looking to place the blame elsewhere when you don't get picked.

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Mary inTampa in Tampa, Florida

4 months ago

I know attorneys hire based on a female secretary's looks first, but that's a whole different atmosphere. But this guy keeps coming across as arrogant. If you had 30 interviews and didn't get the job, then it's time to look what's inside the box.

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gmajor7th in 13th Colony, New Jersey

4 months ago

CanYouHandleTheTruth? in Ballwin, Missouri said: I'm not in IT, so I don't know the specifics, but since when does a company allow applicants to know who one another are? You seem to KNOW that the person(s) that got the job(s) was white and less qualified than you - how do you know this?
In your postings, you have this attitude that you are the best at what you do and that YOU are infallible. That might be your downfall. Being confident is one thing, but to me, IMHO, you sound really cocky, and that gets annoying really fast.
Let me ask you something - in today's economy and the way companies have to work harder than ever to even survive, do you actually think that they would choose a less qualified, less personable candidate for job when they had the opportunity to hire 'Superman' (i.e.: you).
I don't know you, but just from your posts, you come across as an arrogant person who doesn't take responsibility for their failures but will trumpet their small successes.
Experienced hiring managers pick up on that quickly and their job depends on them hiring the BEST person for the job.
Maybe you need to realize that you may be good at what you do, but there is always someone just as good and possibly better. Work on improving presenting yourself and quit looking to place the blame elsewhere when you don't get picked.

Well, it was a meeting of various disrticts(really a huge luncheon), and by speaking with this person, he didn't know many of the basic concepts of what his job entailed (ie Network Admin). I really couldn't have a basic technical dialogue with the dude, and he chuckled about "not going to college". See what I mean?

For some counterpoint, companies(in the IT field) want to save money, so they will hire less-skilled candidates and cut down requirements for the position. That has happened to me quite a number of times, 4-5 I think. Also companies want to appear "diverse" and just interview minorites to keep from getting sued.

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gmajor7th in 13th Colony, New Jersey

4 months ago

Mary inTampa in Tampa, Florida said: I know attorneys hire based on a female secretary's looks first, but that's a whole different atmosphere. But this guy keeps coming across as arrogant. If you had 30 interviews and didn't get the job, then it's time to look what's inside the box.

I'm fine, companies are scared, cheap, and possibly racist. Like I always say, if I file for a security position or toilet scrubber, I'll get hired on the spot. It's not arrogance, it's confidence in one's abilities, if you have no confidence in your skills, what's the point? I'm an AA with alot of experience and education, an enigma, so it baffles many company environments...

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CanYouHandleTheTruth? in Ballwin, Missouri

4 months ago

You itemized 5 - 6 situations where you think you've been a victim of discrimination. You say you've been on 30 interviews. Using my own personal stats, that means you must have submitted a resume to, or applied to, about 500 jobs.
What happened on the other 25 interviews? Were you victimized all of those times too? I think not.
One of the great things about this forum is it allows people to be anonymous, so I can use my knowledge and experience to tell the truth - things that are illegal in the work force.
Here's my experienced opinion as someone who has interviewed probably 300 - 600 applicants - the problem is you, it's not your skin color.
You have an attitude that because you have a certain level of IT knowledge, employers should be clamoring to you and begging you to come work for them. Sorry pal, that's most likely not going to happen in 2009. Or 2010. Maybe not ever. There's lots of candidates that are just as good, if not better than you (on paper). Deal with it. Accept it. Don't blame 'white America' because you can't get a job.
Ya know, they can't tell you all this because *some people* would hear that as discriminatory and call the ACLU. So they say nothing and you still think that your being persecuted.
So, with that mind set, if you want a job, you need to sell yourself to the company. I don't mean physically, I mean you have to explain to them why it's in their best interest to hire you. What can you do for THEM? HOW MUCH MONEY will you earn for them or save them? Why should they hire you?
If you think that being confident, yet HUMBLE, is 'shuckin & jivin' or being an 'Uncle Tom to the white man', then you will always feel that you are being persecuted; whether it's applying for a job, or because the non-African-American at the coffee shop didn't smile at you but she did to the guy in line in front of you.
All job applicants have to take a bite of the sh*t sandwich. You're no different. No better, no wors

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gmajor7th in 13th Colony, New Jersey

4 months ago

It's just like dating. Most women date losers of some kind much like many companies have losers or pick losers over real and great prospects (such as myself). I know I'm the man, and all I need is one to finally get that.

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